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As we all know, Michael Jackson loved children. He turned his estate into a child’s paradise. He invited hordes of children to ride rides and visit his zoo. He says that in children, he sees “the face of God.” Some say Michael only felt
comfortable around children and was child-like himself.
I ran into a thought-provoking article titled Profile and Common Characteristics of a Pedophile.
- They are often fascinated with children and child activities appearing to prefer those activities to adult oriented activities.
- They will often refer to children in pure or angelic terms using descriptive words like innocent, heavenly, and divine.
- They have hobbies that are child-like such as collecting popular expensive toys, keeping reptiles or exotic pets, or building plane and car models.
- Often his environment or a special room will be decorated in child-like decor and will appeal to the age and sex of the child he is trying to entice.
When people imagine Michael Jackson with children, they might imagine them visiting him for a fun day at Neverland. And many children did just that.
But then there were his “special” friends.
These were young boys, typically around the age of 10-14, whom Michael spent inordinate amounts of time with. He took them along on tours and trips, had them appear in his music videos and commercials, and lavished them with expensive gifts.
Four of these boys have accused Michael of molestation. A few claim that nothing inappropriate happened.
The elephant in to the room is that they tended to be very attractive boys.
[This is not a comprehensive list.]
A quick Google search reveals some questionable photos of Michael with these boys. Link 1.
Link 2 - Can somebody tell me what the hell is going on in this picture? Is the baby bottle on the window sill for Michael??
Link 6 - This is Michael holding Jordan Chandler, his 1993 accuser, in his lap at the World Music Awards. Note that Jordan is old enough to be in 8th grade, i.e. way too old to be sitting in anyone's lap.
According to Diane Diamond in this documentary, Michael was bouncing Jordan up and down and whispering his nickname, “Rubba,” over and over into his ear. People sitting nearby were feeling uncomfortable, and one of Jackson’s managers suggested that the boy go back to his seat.
Characteristics of a “fixated” pedophile:
“…the offender has not fully developed and shows characteristics of a child. […] this type of offender is often unable to attain any degree of psychosexual maturity and, during adulthood, has had virtually no age-appropriate sexual relationships […] The fixated offender is more likely to choose victims who are male and not related to him. […] They typically recruit, groom and maintain children for a continuing sexual relationship.”
“Most preferential child molesters usually work toward a situation in which the child has to change clothing, spend the night, or both. […] Spending the night with the child is the best way for sexual activity to progress.”
In 1993, a 13-year-old boy named Jordan Chandler accused Michael of sexual molestation. Michael paid him upwards of $15 million to resolve the case.
In preparation for the court proceedings, Jordan was put through a battery of tests, including an interview with a psychiatrist. The transcript of this interview is available online.
Jordan details becoming friends with Michael, receiving frequent phone calls, eventually receiving an invitation to visit him, and taking trips with him (with Jordan’s mother and sister in tow). One night in a hotel room, Michael and Jordan watch The Exorcist; after the movie, Jordan is scared, and Michael suggests that Jordan should spend the night with him (nothing sexual happened…yet). When Jordan’s mother, June, expresses concern the next day about Jordan sharing a bed with Michael, Michael begins to cry, saying: “We’re a family! Don’t you trust me?” June folds and agrees that sleepovers with Michael are ok; Michael buys June a Cartier bracelet the next day.
[June tells the same story in the 2005 molestation trial transcripts.]
As sleepovers continue, Jordan details how Michael starts to push boundaries, at first briefly hugging him when they are laying down, then kissing him on the lips, and eventually moving onto sexual acts. Michael groomed Jordan to keep their sexual relationship a secret.
According to Jordan, the situation escalated when him and Michael were in a hotel room with the flu, and Jordan’s mother and sister were sent off shopping with Michael’s credit card. Michael’s old manager corroborates this story in this documentary (at 21:42), claiming he recalls the day when Jordan and Michael were alone in the suite with the flu.
Jordan says that Michael used code words for sexual language.
“An erection was ‘lights.’”
“Cum was ‘duck butter.'”
Jimmy Safechuck also recalls Michael using code words such as “bright light, big city” for an erection and “duck butter” for semen. [Source]
Michael explained to Jordan that others have been “conditioned” to believe that sexual acts between a boy and a man are wrong.
Interviewer: “And what did he say about levitation?”
Jordan: “That the people who levitate are unconditioned. […]”
Interviewer: “When you talk about unconditioned, what does that mean?”
Jordan: “That they were not conditioned to believe that gravity existed, and I suppose that that meant that those who are unconditioned would find what Michael was doing was not wrong
A sharp ex fan noted that Michael uses some remarkably similar language in this interview.
Michael: "There's a certain sense that animals and children have [...] that later on in adulthood is kind of lost because of the conditioning that happens in our world. By the time you are an adult, you're conditioned, you're so conditioned by the things around you."
Interestingly, as Michael moved to test Jordan’s boundaries with sexual acts, whenever he told Michael “I don’t like that, don’t do that again” Michael would cry and whine, but he would never do that specific thing again.
Michael also made sure Jordan knew how much he “loved” and “cared” about him.
“The offenders delude themselves into believing they have established a caring, supportive role with the child and that the child is able to derive pleasure […] from the interaction.”
Nay-sayers believe that Evan Chandler cooked up this story and coached Jordan into telling it. I’ll say, if the story is a fabrication, it truly is a Machiavellian feat. Particularly impressive is young Jordan’s ability to tell it in chilling detail.
The 1993 case has a lot of internet mythos surrounding it, so let’s debunk some of them.
Jordan Chandler admitted to lying
No, he didn’t. That was an internet hoax circulated shortly after Michael’s death. In fact, the fake confession was so bad that whoever made it couldn't even get the names in the right order. Evan was listed as the kid who was instructed by his evil father, Jordan, to fabricate sex molestation lies against Jackson.
There are no details on where the "alleged" confession was made or to whom, let alone any pictures or video evidence to back it up.
Jordan Chandler’s father committed suicide after Michael’s death out of guilt
It’s true that Evan Chandler committed suicide five months after Michael’s death. Was it out of guilt? Sure, that’s one possibility. Evan Chandler also suffered from bipolar disorder, and according to CNN was ill with cancer. Evan was also deeply paranoid [1, 2, 3] after the 1993 allegations due to stalking and death threats from Jackson’s fans, often relocating and even undergoing plastic surgery to hide his identity. This harassment no-doubt escalated after Jackson’s death, with many fans claiming him the “man who killed Michael Jackson.”
I have no idea why Evan committed suicide, but mental illness, cancer, and death threats from loons around the world might push a man over the edge, no?
A recorded phone conversation proves that Evan Chandler was trying to extort Jackson for money
The transcript of the phone conversation is available online.
In the transcript, we see that Evan genuinely suspects that Michael and Jordan are having a sexual relationship and is angry at Michael for alienating him from Jordan. There is not a word about extortion, money, or making false allegations.
Why did the Chandlers accept a payout? No parent would accept money from their child’s molester! They would want to see him in prison!
It’s true that Jordan Chandler received $15 million, and June and Evan Chandler received $1 million each to resolve the case. Source: mjfacts.com/the-settlement-document/
Why did they accept money?
When the allegations broke in 1993, life got quite unpleasant for the Chandlers. Loony Jackson fans traveled from around the world to personally deliver them death threats. [I have read online that the family had dead animals left at their door, and a car tried to run over Jordan, but I cannot find a credible source to confirm this. However, judging by Evan’s paranoia, I’m guessing the harassment was quite severe.]
Would June and Evan Chandler have been “good parents” if they had gone through with the case? Jordan’s life was in danger, and pursuing the case would have put him through months of harassment, global media scrutiny, and having to relive his molestation in court. And even if Jordan was put through all of that, there was no guarantee that Jackson would be prosecuted.
Taking Michael’s money, and using that money to relocate and hide, was a pretty smart move.
Jordan Chandler didn’t speak to his parents after the 1993 incident
Jordan’s mother testified that she hadn’t spoken to Jordan in 11 years in the 2005 trial.
June allowed her son to sleep in the same bed with a questionable man in exchange for gifts and attention. Are you surprised their relationship suffered?
Happily (?), June and Jordan have been photographed together in recent years, so perhaps they have made up.
Jordan filed a restraining order against his father in 2006 after he hit Jordan on the head with a weight, sprayed his face with mace, and tried to choke him.
Skeptics often point to the flaws of June and Evan Chandler as corroborating evidence of extortion. However, the direction of causality is not clear. Due to the nature of what Michael was doing (lavishing families with money and gifts in exchange for undue amounts of time alone with their sons), only dysfunctional families would have landed in Michael’s net to begin with.
[Alleged] comment from Michael’s former publicist:
“And yes, he chooses people carefully – these dysfunctional families of these kids who all looked alike.”
Let’s talk about those photos of Michael’s genitalia.
We all know the scoop—Jordan Chandler described some intimate details of Jackson’s penis, and police headed over to Neverland to photograph Jackson’s private parts. But did Jordan’s description match?
There is a lot of confusing and contradictory information about this on the web. After a lot of research and hair pulling, these are the only facts I could confirm with credible sources:
- Jordan correctly identified a dark spot on the lower part of Michael’s penis, as per this legal document: Page 1, Page 2
- Shortly after these photos were taken, Michael thought it best to pay Jordan $15 million instead of going through with the case. [The photos were taken December, 1993; the settlement document was signed in January, 1994.]
From one of Michael’s lawyers:
“…There had been an occasion where Michael Jackson was examined, and his genitalia was recorded, […] And that was part of the 300 pound gorilla in the mediation room. […] …the reality was we were hopeful that if we were able to “silence” the accuser, that would obviate the need for any concern about the criminal side […] If we don’t get this case settled before March, there is a criminal investigation looming, and no one wanted to consider the implications of that as it affected Michael Jackson.”
[Source; scroll down the page for a video]
You might have read online that Jordan incorrectly identified that Michael was circumcised. While this information has been widely circulated, I cannot find a single credible source to confirm that this was actually part of Jordan’s description.
[By the way, this is not Jordan’s drawing. It doesn’t even show the mark described in the court document. It’s…something from Victor Guiterrez’s book, Michael Jackson Was My Lover. Not sure what. Jordan’s drawing, as well as the photos of Michael, have not been released to the public.]
Poor Jordan Chandler. His father tried to kill him, his mother let a questionable celebrity sleep in his bed in exchange for jewelry and glamour, MJ fans have stalked, harassed, and made threats on his life since 1993, and a man who purported to be his friend took advantage of him to fulfill his own perverse desires.
Yet Michael is remembered as the victim.
La Toya Jackson: “Jordie, I do not know this kid, I have never met this kid, […] but at the same time, I feel bad for him, and no one’s caring about Jordie!”
Well said, La Toya.
Alright, so it looks like Michael was probably guilty in 1993.
But what about Gavin Arvizo in 2005?
This case is a weird one. We have a boy who looks like Jordan Chandler, who was having sleepovers with Michael, and who accused Michael of molestation.
But the story didn’t hold up in court, and Michael was acquitted.
It’s possible that the Arvizos were lying. Why not? When Michael paid off Jordan Chandler in 1993, he put up a banner saying, “Come accuse me of molestation, and you might get $15 million!”
The scoop is that the jurors found too many holes in the Arvizos’ story. Janet Arvizo, Gavin’s mother, claimed being “held hostage” at Neverland, yet receipts showed her and her daughter doing out for manicures during this time.
FWIW, the body language between Gavin and Michael in Living With Michael Jackson [1:14:05] is very disturbing. Gavin is holding hands with Michael and resting his head on Michael’s shoulder with a submissive expression. Most teenage boys would be embarrassed to act this way with an unrelated man, but Gavin has clearly been groomed to believe this is normal behavior.
Like other accusers, Gavin claimed Michael used code words, such as “Jesus juice” for wine.
I can’t be the only one who can vividly hear Michael say “Jesus juice.”
Regardless of the jury’s decision, the trial transcripts reveal a lot of information that suggests Michael was indeed a pedophile.
- A hub of Michael’s former employees testified to witnessing sexual behavior with boys.
- Two [legal] photography books [link NSFW] featuring nude boys were found in Michael’s bedroom.
- Michael sure kept a lot of pornography [link NSFW] in that home of his where he regularly entertained children. Pornographic magazines were strewn about Neverland with reckless abandon.
Adult pornography is frequently left out for the children to “discover.” A collection of adult pornography is effective in sexually arousing and lowering the inhibitions of adolescent boys. This is the primary reason why preferential child molesters collect adult pornography.
“…. victims of acquaintance exploitation usually have been carefully seduced and often do not realize they are victims […] Society and the criminal-justice system have a difficult time understanding this […] If a boy is molested, why does he allow it to continue? […] Some victims are simply willing to trade sex for attention, affection, and gifts and do not believe they are victims. The sex itself might even be enjoyable. The offender may be treating them better than anyone has ever treated them.
Many victims not only do not disclose, but they strongly deny it happened when confronted. In one case several boys took the stand and testified concerning the high moral character of the accused molester. When the accused molester changed his plea to guilty, he admitted that the boys who testified for him were also victims."
When asked in an interview about why he defended Michael in 2005, Wade says:
“This is not a case of repressed memory…I never forgot one moment of what Michael did to me. But I was psychologically and emotionally unable and unwilling to understand that it was sexual abuse.”
But how could he not understand? He was 22 years old when he defended Michael!
As disturbing as it is, the offender-victim bond can persist into adulthood. One “boy-lover” molester said:
“There are several men today, whom I mentored when they were boys, who hold me in much higher esteem than they did their absent/no good/worthless fathers. They still call me for advice, I’ve even stood in as Father or been the Best Man at their weddings. That says a lot of where I stand in their hearts.”
As hard as it is to grasp, Michael was a special person for Wade. He was Wade’s idol, and being noticed by Michael and receiving phone calls from him were likely some of the happiest moments in little Wade’s life. Wade was groomed from the age of 7 to believe what him and Michael did were “acts of love” that the rest of the world didn’t understand. He believed he had been a willing participant. It is likely that Wade also felt indebted to Michael for helping him with his career [Wade is a successful dancer and choreographer who has worked with big celebrities.]
Wade claims that having a son of his own put things into perspective for him. This makes sense. By experiencing the vulnerability and frailty of his own child, Wade was able to understand it didn’t matter if he hadn’t said “no” —he had been a child, and Michael had been the adult.
Unfortunately, because Wade defended Michael in 2005, he has been met with a lot of skepticism. Jackson fans rabidly cling onto Wade’s initial defense as proof that he is lying. The general public has some trouble with the whole “I didn’t know I was being abused” thing.
Wade Robson’s mother also gave testimony in 2005 in defense of Michael. While she testifies that she never saw anything inappropriate between Michael and Wade, she admits that Michael would call her, sometimes late at night, to bring Wade over for a “sleepover.”
Wade’s mother complied with these requests.
Wade has accused Michael of lewd acts including oral sex and sodomy.
Are you feeling nauseous yet?
[You might note that these are worse accusations than Jordan Chandler made in his interview. Why is this? Probably because Jordan’s abuse lasted for less than a year, providing less time for sexual acts to progress. Michael abused Wade for 7 years.]
Blanca Francia’s testimony of seeing Michael and young Wade showering together.
Why did Wade ask for money in his lawsuit?
If Wade wanted some monetary compensation from the multimillion-dollar estate that enabled his childhood sexual abuse, he was well in his rights to do so.
Also, Wade probably wanted to combine his coming forward with some kind of legal action. Since Michael was dead, what else was there left to do other than to sue his estate?
My hot take on Wade: it's bonkers to suggest that Wade would concoct an elaborate lie to tell in court, globally smear the name of his dead friend and mentor, put him and his family in danger of MJ's loons, and irreparably tie his image to being one of Michael's victims, all for a small chance to win $1 million [and he has even less to gain from the new documentary.]
Also, Google is telling me Wade's networth is estimated at $2 million. He is a millionaire. He doesn't need money, assholes.
Let’s talk about Omer Bhatti
In 1997, Michael brought a young Norwegian boy, Omer Bhatti, to live with him in Neverland. He is the boy in this unsettling photo.
It’s hard to find credible information about Omer. However, we know that he lived in Neverland with Michael for many years, and the two were so close that Omer sat with Michael’s family at his funeral.
What was their relationship? Nobody knows for sure, but based on Michael’s track record, we can fathom a guess.
There was a rumor that Omer is Michael’s illegitimate son. The Jackson family even corroborated this rumor.
However, Google is telling me this is Omer’s father, Riz Bhatti. Omer looks a lot like this guy.
MJFacts: “The rumor served two purposes – one, it would satisfy the curiosity of those who wondered at the propriety of a 40 year old man who had a 13 year old boy staying in his house; and two, it would help bolster [Jackson’s] almost nebulous heterosexual credentials.”
Omer’s story is probably the most disturbing because he stayed with Michael for a long time, and based on photographs, it looks like Michael might have been trying to fashion a co-parent out of Omer. This might sound too bizarre to be true, but it becomes plausible considering Jimmy Safechuck’s story of Michael conducting a phony marriage ceremony between himself and young Jimmy. Omer seems to have gotten an extended stay in Michael’s life (Michael kept him around well beyond puberty), so perhaps Omer being a fixture in the lives of his children explains this.
Omer has given some interviews, and when asked about the allegations against Michael, he gives a curious reply:
“I don’t wish to say too much about it, but I will say Michael in many ways was very innocent. But you can’t expect everybody to have the same view on everything. […] To him certain things were natural and completely innocent, things that not necessarily all people would view the same way.”
Some other relevant relevant links…
- Michael’s sister, La Toya, accusing Michael of pedophilia:*** link, link, link
- Conrad Murray (Michael’s former doctor) is asked point blank if he thinks Michael was a pedophile (at 10:00). His reply is…interesting.
- A court document which indicates that a photograph of a nude boy, “believed to be Jonathan Spence,” was found at Neverland. [Jonathan is the boy whose upper thigh Michael is holding in this picture.]
- An FBI document about an incident on a train. Michael brings a boy with him on a train whom he calls his “cousin.” At night, a woman hears disturbing noises from Michael’s compartment where he is with the boy, to the point of alerting the train’s conductor. [This document can be found in Michael’s FBI Vaults.]
- A man in this documentary (8:45) tells his story about receiving frequent phone calls from Michael as a boy. One day, Michael calls him to tell him he is masturbating.
- Jimmy Safechuck’s Civil Complaint. Jimmy details an intense relationship with Michael that lasted for years. His story paints Michael in quite the dark light, particularly his callous abandonment of Jimmy once the boy got too old.
- An excerpt from An Agoraphobic’s Guide To Hollywood: How Michael Jackson Got Me Out Of The House. A screenwriter recalls visiting Michael and witnessing an interaction between Michael and a young boy that left her feeling uneasy.
- Sean Lennon, who was friends with Michael as a boy, released a music video that blatantly portrays Michael as a child molester [fair warning, the video is pretty disturbing.] Quite the cruel video to release about a dead friend had Sean thought Michael innocent.
[I think Sean might be trying to tell us something with that video. What do you think?]
Comments allegedly made by Michael’s former publicist:
“Even the female children of staffers were shunned to the side in favour of the male kids at long parties and receptions. It was interesting to watch though at the time it didn’t really “click” for many of us.”
“I remember the kids too, that Safechuck kid – I can’t recall his first name. But I remember he weirded Lee Solters out on that tour. Michael and him were inseparable...”
“But it did creep me out when I did hear him say “look at those lips, look at how red his little lips are, look at his lips!” …about Macaulay Culkin when we passed a Home Alone poster at the theater next to our hotel on one of our tour stops.”
“The homes of some pedophiles have been described as shrines to children or as miniature amusement parks.”
“Many pedophiles spend their entire lives attempting to convince themselves and others that they are not evil sexual perverts, but good guys who love and nurture children.”
At this point, you might be thinking: holy hell, Michael was obviously a pedophile! Why is anyone even debating this??
The MJ Estate has done a bang-up job of cleaning up Michael’s image after his death. Documentaries that portray Michael in a laughably idealistic light have been put out. Misinformation that discredits his accusers has been put forward full force.
The motive to clear Jackson’s name is obvious: a man’s art is worth more when he is dead, and the vindication of Michael is paramount for maximum cash-in on Michael Jackson nostalgia.
There is another reason for the muddy waters: Michael Jackson’s fan cult.
It might sound far-out to say there is an organized MJ cult, but hear me out.
From MJ Facts:
“…I discovered many very active websites in support of Jackson. […] they all serve a single-minded purpose – to rehabilitate the image of Jackson and to prevent further sullying of his name.”
“For the first target they rewrite negative stories about Jackson and attempt to put a positive spin forward. […] For the second part there is a two pronged process […] The first prong is the mobilization of the troops – which occurs as soon as a negative story is published. On Michael Jackson blogs and websites […] there will be a brief outline of the article […] and a call to arms. Fans are directed to invade the comments section of the article with missives […] – the lies and money retorts..."
Amazingly, in the year 2019, I am seeing this behavior on Reddit. Soon after a post about the new documentary from Wade and Jimmy is made, a detailed comment will appear with distorted information to make Wade and Jimmy look like liars (and yes, they love to point out how Wade defended Michael in 2005!). To the untrained eye, the poster looks like they know what they are talking about, and the comment gets up-voted by the hundreds.
I have (foolishly) tried to engage with some of these commenters. If I ask them to cite a source for their information, they stop responding. If I refute their information with cited sources, they also stop responding.
It’s clear as day—these people aren’t interested in engaging in informed debate about Michael. They have decided, for their own emotional reasons, to believe he is innocent, and willfully ignore information that might suggest otherwise.
The result of the cult’s activity is that discussion about Michael on the internet is brigaded with misleading and contradictory information. Indeed, it is very hard to believe one thing when you are faced with hordes of people who say another. There are so many people who defend Michael with ardor that sometimes, it makes me question my own perception of reality. That is the power of group think.
Amidst all of this confusion, and perhaps our own emotional need for closure on the whole Michael Jackson debacle, we have laid the King of Pop to rest under a shroud of comfortable delusion.
Even though Michael is dead and gone, and I have nothing but sympathy for his family, it is important that we talk about him honestly, and acknowledge what he actually was. His victims deserve better than to be called liars and gold-digging opportunists, and see their molester be idolized and made excuses for.
There is much to be learned from the case of Michael Jackson. We can learn about the egregious extent to which the rich and powerful get away with things average people never would. Due to our emotional attachment to Michael’s music and legacy, we have somehow made excuses for the most obvious pedophile the world has ever seen. Bob down the street would never be given the benefit of the doubt if he invited young boys into his bedroom and held them in his lap in public.
We can also glean from Michael's story that coming forward as the victim of sexual abuse really, really sucks, and the amount of abuse accusers receive is proportional to the status of the person they are accusing. This is why victims of elite abuse are hesitant to come forward, and why the elite get away with abuse. Due to Michael’s celebrity, the boys/men who have come forward have suffered for it greatly. They are met with skepticism and cynicism from the public, and stalking and threats from fans. Given how difficult it is to admit to being sexually abused in the first place, it really is a shame.
MJFacts: “There is no point in defending the ‘reputation’ of a dead man, but there is much to be gained by supporting victims, both past, present and future.”
Let’s listen to the stories of abuse victims with open ears, and give our support Wade and Jimmy for bravely coming forward.
[A big shout-out to MJFacts.com for helping me see light.]
***On La Toya Jackson
Since I cited her in the post, I don’t think I can get away without talking about this.
In 1993, La Toya gave some very impassioned interviews about Michael’s pedophilic behavior and how she would not stand for it as an abuse victim herself.
But in 2005, she retracted these claims, joining the Jackson clan’s chorus of “Michael is so misunderstood.”
What the hell?
The story is that when she accused Michael, her abusive ex-husband and manager forced her to read from a script. He did this so that La Toya would “get publicity” and “sell records” (an interesting approach; I’ve never heard of somebody becoming famous because their brother is a pedophile.)
Personally I think this is a hunk of bull, otherwise La Toya should probably go into acting next because she is very convincing in those clips.
But why would she change her story?
La Toya talks in this interview about having a difficult time leaving her family as an adult and only being able to leave when she got married. Sadly, after her divorce, it seems that she was roped back in. Whether it was for emotional or financial reasons, or she was coerced, I don’t know, but she got right back to the business of covering for her family members.
She also retracted statements about her father’s abuse.
Call me crazy but I think she was telling the truth the first time.